When Arthur Andersen died, did the culture of integrity die with him?
TOFFLER: No. Leonard Spacek took over and he was the most impressive of the leaders post-Andersen. He embodied the uprightness of Andersen, but he really thought about how you grow and develop the firm. He was a more creative manager and leader. He only died in the 2000. And it must have just killed him to see what the firm was going through. CCR: You went to Andersen in October 1, 1995. When did you realize that things weren’t as they seemed to be? TOFFLER: I had a bad experience the first day I walked in the door. I had been brought in by a young, very dynamic partner, Dean Fischer. Fischer reported to Gary Holdren, who started the Central Region Consulting Organization, under which several audit-related consulting services would be housed. The money for my group had been put up by Dick Measelle, who was the managing partner of Arthur Andersen. This was the same time that George Shaheen was the managing partner of Andersen Consulting. When I talked with Dean Fischer prior to my joini