Whats it like there now, in Amsterdam or the Netherlands in general?
M: I personally think you can’t just talk about the Netherlands in general. In the hardcore scene, there are no borders. So, I think in the hardcore scene in general in the world, after 97, 98 its much much better. There are so many good bands at the moment. MK: I agree with Marc, but in the last couple of years we’ve had some of the greatest moments in our local Amsterdam punk hardcore scene. We had a squat called De Baarmoeder. A whole new generation of young kids who are like 17, 18 year olds, squatted this place and organized shows all the time. No borders between ages. There are a couple of great new bands in Amsterdam: GEWAPEND BETON, SICK MORMONS, THE SHINING and a couple of other bands from the south of Holland like our friends CITIZENS PATROL and BRAT PACK, amazing bands, amazing music. Since I moved there in 1993, this, in my opinion, is one of the best moments in the Dutch hardcore scene in the last 15-16 years.