What percentage of the population needs bulk billing then?
You’re identifying Kerry Packer, the Cabinet ministers and ABC reporters as not needing it. What percentage — you’re talking now to the Australian public — what percentage of them need bulk billing? Tony Abbott: 62 per cent of GP consultations are with concession cardholders and kids under 16. And certainly I think it’s reasonable to expect that those people will be bulk billed under most circumstances. As for the rest of us, well, look, that really should be a choice that doctors and their patients make. Now, I’m not going to say that it should always happen, but I certainly think it should happen sometimes. But in the end that’s not for the Government to direct because we do not believe in medical conscription. We do not believe in a totally controlled market for medical services. Tony Jones: 62 per cent is pretty low. 62 per cent only for children and people with concession cardholders, that leaves 38 per cent to 40 per cent. So you’re saying effectively that 38 per cent to 40 per