What has it meant to beat Michigan three years in a row?
“It’s a statement for the program. It hasn’t been done around here for a while. An archrival for us, so we will continue to keep that rivalry alive and continue to talk about it and build for it. That’s just the way it’s going to be here. To win is one thing. But the games, regardless of the scores, are always very tight and very emotional. You always have to bring your emotion to the game.” You were secondary coach under Nick Saban at Michigan State from 1995-99. What did you learn from him? “I learned technique, especially in the back end of the secondary. Technique, timing, defensive schemes. I also learned organizational things from him. He’s extremely organized in everything he does. And he’s always going to be on the cutting edge of everything that’s going on. He’s always going to critique what he did and he’s always going to try to make it better. He does an excellent job of it. He’s obviously a very strong football coach. We still talk on occasion.” You were defensive coordinat