What happened in the early 80s when the parks started dying away?
Did you keep skating? Yeah, we had a skateboard club at UCSD. The president was a good friend, Steve Villarreal, from Pennsylvania. We built vert ramps and mini ramps on campus. Did you skate with anybody down there? Any miracle sessions? I skated with everyone at McGill’s Skatepark, Linda Vista Boy’s Club, and the UCSD ramps. Gator was ripping before he killed that girl. As things started blowing up again, did you keep building ramps? Yeah, I built a ramp down in Argentina with this friend of mine, Rodrigo Barros. How’d you get down to Argentina? I was down in Brazil skating because they had all those concrete parks down there. I met Rodrigo in Brazil. He was always in San Diego skating, and he said, “Hey, come down and skate in Argentina. We’ll build a ramp.” When did you start getting paid to build stuff? I didn’t get paid until I worked on the Ashland, Oregon park in 1997. When did you move to Oregon? I lived there pretty much since 1969, but I was born in New York. I’m from the Ea