What did you think about Phil Spector’s murder conviction?
There were already stories from the End Of The Century recordings that he was pointing a gun at band members. (The story was) that he carried it and pointed it at Dee Dee. But that might have been exaggeration. Only The Ramones, (musical director) Ed Stasium, Phil and (engineer) Larry Levine were in the studio. Phil was used to working slow and we were used to working fast. There was a clash between Johnny and Phil about the work ethic. Phil didn’t like John’s work ethic and vice versa. Phil was the producer so he won out. We remained friends and I was at his court case. He claims his innocence. That’s the way it went. It was sad when they took it away. But he never pointed a gun at us. He had them there, but he never waved them around. There were on the console. They were too heavy for him. He left them in a holster on the board. You are going to help fund a drum scholarship for the Musicians Institute in Los Angeles. When I hear the Ramones I don’t exactly think of school or music sc
