Were the victims mistakingly believed to be dangerous people?
There were differences individually. But they were all drawn to a symbol, and a pretty absurd symbol — (the Bandido was) a cartoon character stolen from a potato chip company. Like, you have a murder over that symbol? It’s just bizarre. Nothing more to it, no money changed hands in the murders, nobody made a penny. To have that level of violence fought for absolutely nothing, except being in the pecking order of people who wear a cartoon character on their back. Just bizarre. You start wondering if it’s self-loathing. What leads you to that — to abandon what could have been really good lives to get into this sort of thing? Their families were generally very nice people when I met them. And you expect (the victims) to come from these broken homes, but not at all. I think it was more curiosity, boredom, fear of being insignificant. It wasn’t abject poverty, most of them were lower-middle-class kids. There was nothing about Boxer that was actually cruel. He could lose his temper, and he