Were the Louisiana/Florida groups different from the West Coast guys?
MS: Definitely. It’s a totally different form of logging. On the West Coast, you’re seeing these really large, established operations who have scores of people working for them at any given time. It’s a real, real process. Down South, what you’re seeing with the water logging is more of these really small groups, these independent operators who might only work with a couple of different people at a time. In the case of Shelby Stanga, he really is someone who works on his own for the most part. When they log in the Pacific Northwest, they obviously know where the logs are and it’s all about cutting them down, harvesting them and getting them off the mountain, which is a huge challenge. Down South with the water loggers, it’s like a treasure hunt. It’s about finding something that has been abandoned in history at some point. These logs which typically were logging rafts or have been towed down the river at some point when that area was being logged and then they sunk to the bottom. In th