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Was there a conscious effort to make the heavy parts heavier and the poppy parts poppier?

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Was there a conscious effort to make the heavy parts heavier and the poppy parts poppier?

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Yes, for sure. That was a really big part of this record. We wanted to make sure it was heavier and poppier at the same time, because I mean, we didn’t want to do the same thing twice, so we just tried to take it to the next level. Did you find it a challenge? Not so much. It actually came kinda naturally. We do what we do every time. We wrote what we wanted to write at that time. So, I mean, it wasn’t a real challenge, and Chad and Andrew just made it way easier, because we did it on the road and it turned out like I never imagined it would. Since you were on the road with Chad, did you work on songs together while on tour? We had a few songs written [before the tour], but half the record we’d written on that tour with Chad, finishing up ideas. We had a lot of parts, but nothing that was finished–so we had to structure the songs and stuff like that. We wrote a lot on Warped Tour and we just kinda finished the record on the Easycore Tour because Chad was there to help produce it. Then

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