Was that when Jaco came in?
WL: That’s when Jaco was the next call. FBPO: I bet we can really go off on a tangent here… WL: Some great stories came with that whole scene. FBPO: Can you share one? WL: The one that’s most startling to me is that there were three people I’m aware of who became New York musicians who got to sit in the room with Jaco as their bass teacher: Hiram Bullock, Mark Egan and Frank Gravis. Frank Gravis was a guy I first heard in Miami. When I went back down there, I saw him playing with Phyllis Hyman, I believe. It turns out that Frank Gravis and I – this is a side story to the side story to the side story – Frank Gravis and I were born in the same hospital in San Antonio, Texas, twelve days apart and both ended up New York bass players. Oliver North, the Iran-Contra guy, was also born in that hospital, but at a different time. Anyway, the story that was consistent that I’ve heard from all three of those guys was that they would show up for the lesson and Jaco would say, “Hey, man, play this
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