Was that band one of the first death rock goth-type bands out there?
Yeah it was, even though – that was just kinda part of what we did. I mean we started out as a sort of improvisational sound thing. Sort of like AMM or something, and then the Germs – I don’t know – and then we started doing these pop songs, because we were really good musicians. It was me and all my favorite musicians – Paul Cutler and Rob Graves, who was an amazing bass player. And my girlfriend had to sing. Actually there’s a whole big thing coming out about .45 Grave — a DVD with this huge interview. It’s really good. Oh really? Yeah, it kicks ass. It’s a really good live show. And what was the deal with Vox Pop? Was that the one where you pissed off Darby Crash because you were wearing a dress or something? It wouldn’t have pissed him off except for I was always in drag and stuff, because you know – Well, I still kinda do that. I look fuckin’ hot in drag! I have this whole teenage rock star body even though I’m almost 50 years old. How do you maintain that? I don’t know. I have n