Was that a frustrating time – knowing youd released a great album but were hampered by internal bickering?
JS: Yes and no…I can’t remember. It didn’t really effect the record at the time. It was hard work making that record. The band…I’m kind of ferociously loyal as a person, I know the tag line is ‘Hire and Fire’ and I’m a despotic ruler of this band, but I’m kind of not. I got rid of one band. But I lived with them for two years on the road trying to sort it out, waiting for the dust to settle, hoping they’d see sense. You can’t suddenly turn off into a road named stardom and riches. It doesn’t work like that. Once you go down that road, you’re already faking it and doing something you shouldn’t do. I tried to make it work, but by the end of it, or even for the last year, if I went into the lounge of the bus, everyone would get up and leave. I spent a very, very lonely year. That must have been pretty soul-destroying… JS: It was devastating, you know? It was all about their power over me. They could make changes, they could decide what shows to do, where to take it. And we couldn’t
