Is the Kosovo example relevant to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict?
Pappe: I think Kosovo is not the right example. South Africa is the much better one. They didn’t say that whites should have their own state in the apartheid debate. There was a war for liberation which was supported by pressure from the outside. You can change the ideology of the state. They are both based on notions of supremacy and racism. In other words, Jews and Palestinians, if they have a chance to survive in the future, must choose a future together in one state. There are not two states right now. There is only one state. The state is already there. Can you create a state with a better situation? Israel is very much in a colonialist position right now. A bi-national model with secular democracy is also a possibility. It would take invention – it would require the principle of territorial integrity, return of refugees, exclusive ethnic, religious ideology. From these principles, we must end the military occupation. We have to convince the world that Israel is an oppressive, rac
