Is London serving as a handy surrogate for us they can make their point in London without upsetting the big applecart?
Scheuer: That’s right. Also, I think we forget sometimes that in many ways Britain is as hated as we are because of the colonial period in the Middle East, but they’re just not the big boys on the block anymore. If they wanted to do the car bombings, the mall shoot-ups, Pizza Hut bombings, that kind of thing could be done in our country very easily. They have made a conscious decision not to do those kinds of small attacks. Bin laden gave a speech or a statement in November of 2001 and he said basically: We don’t have to do anything else to the Americans regarding their domestic society. They are going to strangle their own society. They will eat away at their civil liberties. They’ll become divisive within. The point is very well taken. History is a big thing in understanding where we are and where we are going. He is very conscious of our history. It’s a very dangerous situation because we’re really flying blind The National Intelligence Estimate doesn’t offer Mr. Bush and the admini