Is it hard to summon that sort of disdain or black humor for subsequent records?
ST: I wouldn’t think it would be hard, just look at the world. And everyone always says that it’s easier to write an angry or sad song than a happy song. MA: It is for me. It seems like there’s been a shift from the more personal to external things. MA: There are some things that I’ve written over the years that are definitely personal, but a lot of the shit, like “Touch Me I’m Sick” or “Sweet Young Thing”—neither of those songs are personal. The point of view is personal. You may not necessarily be talking about yourself, but you’re talking about a person versus something external. MA: But even “Hard On For War,” which is a take on an anti-war song, is written from a person’s point of view, though clearly not mine. I think people are going to be tempted to compare the new record to your older albums just because the songs are more succinct. Is there a reason for that outcome this time around? ST: The easiest answer is because Mark didn’t play guitar. We weren’t jamming crazy, wei
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