How successful were the Russians in their intelligence?
WL: That I don’t know. I do know that they were, in their own way, terrible mirror imagers and they were worst casers. They always put the worst spin they possibly could on anything and I believe Gordievsky is telling the truth when he said that they were deliberately deceiving themselves about our intentions to carry out a first strike against them. A lot of that was… they just made up their minds that that had to be what we were trying to do and they did not want to accept evidence to the contrary. An awful lot of that went on, awful lot. And that’s one of the reasons they built such a large military establishment. They tried to make themselves immune to the worst case they could imagine and they practiced it. They practiced worst case situations and said, hey, we can do anything at all under the worst case situation, we’ll do well under the best case and… But I don’t know, I mean, you’d have to have access to archives that I don’t think anybody will ever see in order to really,
