How does the fact that South African Airways is part of Star Alliance affect SA Express?
SM: SA Express is not part of that, but obviously because we have an alliance arrangement with South African Airways, I believe we also benefit indirectly from that because the alliance is built on the concept that we offer a wider network to the passengers so if a person comes on as a Star Alliance member, they also get the benefit of being able to connect on to our routes which are not flown by South African Airways, so that is the benefit. ATN: You have a strong low cost competition in South Africa. Do you believe it is a disadvantage for you to use turboproprs vs jets used by other carriers or do you think it is the appropriate aircraft? SM: I think that indeed it is the appropriate aircraft, we are actually on routes, we are competing on props with carriers that are using jets but there different reasons, people think that it is only about the type of aircraft but it is not, it is about the fact that we are a provider of reliable service those prop aircraft are new aircraft, for e