How do we create an environmental agenda that would support people on a low income?
AH: I think that is very important for the political agenda, because it moves away from this idea that environmentalism is supposedly an elitist issue, and shows that these issues are in our neighbourhoods. We need to show, for example, how pollution affects the incredible cost of healthcare. I think this is a great way to frame environmentalism, and it is of huge importance to political leaders. TH: With evangelical Christians acknowledging climate change and the key figures on the Right recognising our addiction to oil, do you agree that not only are we moving away from the idea as environmentalism being an issue of the elite, but also that we are moving away from it being an issue of the left? AH: I would say that we are in terms of rhetoric, but I am not sure that this is matched by action. As you know, rhetoric is cheap. We have definitely reached a point where it has become like smoking – you can’t now be openly pro-smoking in your language. But the question is how are you going
