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How did the Joker manage to get the upper hand on a trained ninja like Batman in two different fights?

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How did the Joker manage to get the upper hand on a trained ninja like Batman in two different fights?

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In the first fight, in Bruce Wayne’s penthouse, Batman was fighting multiple opponents at once. The Joker stood back and observed the best time and position from which to attack. Even still, he didn’t exactly get the upper hand on Batman. In the final fight at the end of the movie, the Joker sends Rottweilers to attack Batman. While Batman is trying to fend off the dogs, the Joker starts beating him with a pipe. This causes Batman’s SONAR to malfunction, leaving him blinded and open to attack.

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