How did Stephen and Karl end up joining the band?
(Stephen)- Karl and I had first met Bill in ’84 on the My War tour. We had been huge DESCENDENTS fans for years before this. I was living in D.C. in ’85 and ’86, and Karl was playing in a couple of bands in Salt Lake. He was doing a show in Boise, Idaho with one of the bands he was in, and Bill called a guy who Karl’s band was staying with, to see if he was interested in playing bass. This guy was unable to do the bass thing due to family commitments, and hooked Bill up with Karl. Karl went to LA and he and Bill played for a while, and Karl joined then. A couple of weeks later I called Karl to congratulate him on joining, he told me they needed a guitar player. I went to LA, and we jammed for three days in late August ’86. I joined then, and moved to LA in October ’86. We left on tour six weeks later and did a few shows that were the end of the Enjoy! tour.