Do you stay in touch with Jim Brown? Does he get involved in Lacrosse any more?
Later on after he left the pros, he wrote several books that were angry [about racial inequalities]. Very angry about Schwartzwalder [legendary Syracuse football coach] and Paul Brown [legendary pro coach]. Angry about college and the pros. But there were shining moments when he talked of my dad. My Dad never saw color. Never. I was a teammate of his [Brown] so I saw, or felt, or heard the derogatory remarks about racism to Big Jim. It was very evident; very loud and clear. He was uniquely black in Lacrosse, which was unheard of then. He got a lot of racial slurs and I heard them, I was there. We went to hotels where we were not welcome. We came to Baltimore a couple of times and the hotels said we couldn’t stay there because Jim was with us. When we were in the Cotton Bowl, for instance in 1957, we were not allowed in the city of Dallas proper because we had a black player. We stayed in the fringes at a hotel that would accept him. I’ve been on a field standing right next to him in a
