Did you pick much up about creating a mammoth sound in the studio from Jus Oborn’s producing?
Oh yeah, definitely. I mean Jus isn’t really a producer himself. Everything he knows he picked up from all his experience being in the studio. He’s sort of passing on sacred knowledge (laughs). He’s a good mate and those two albums wouldn’t have sounded the way they did without him. He did help us out a lot, getting the atmospheres and vibes we really wanted. And the other doom legend you now work with is Lee Dorrian (Napalm Death, Cathedral and founder of the cult doom and prog label Rise Above Records). We’ve been in contact with Lee now since probably our first couple of demos. I remember giving him a demo at a Cathedral show ages ago. And we get an E-mail a couple of weeks later saying he’d been listening to it with a mate. They were getting stoned to it (laughs). And we were really flattered. We did our first album and he liked it and said ‘If you want to do your second album on Rise Above then you’re welcome.’ I’ve always respected that label and I’ve always liked the records tha
