Did the American Statistical Association have a health sub group, the statisticians?
Or was that just methodology? Shapiro: Methodology. Berkowitz: And –> Public Health which is a big thing, I know. And later I see you were a member of the –> IOM. When did you become a member of the IOM? ’70 something? ’80 something? Shapiro: ’74 or ’75. Berkowitz: You were an early member. Do you know who it was that suggested that you be a member of IOM? Shapiro: Yes. Let me think. Berkowitz: Did you ever feel discriminated against in these groups that you didn’t have a Ph.D.? Shapiro: No, I never felt that way. I guess, immodestly, I had such a reputation, through the production of what the field considered important –> research, that it never entered my mind. I went to –> Hopkins in ’73. Berkowitz: That’s a place that takes credentials very seriously. Shapiro: Yes. It thinks very highly of itself. Berkowitz: That was a real decision, right, to go from –> HIP which is a non-profit, service-oriented organization to an academic setting. Shapiro: It wasn’t as strange as it seems b